Guest: Dr. Stephanie Ternullo - Assistant Professor, Harvard Kennedy School and Author, "How the Heartland Went Red: Why Local Forces Matter in an Age of Nationalized Politics"
I really can’t follow her argument against the view that working class people are not voting in their own interest. To me that’s a charitable way to put it. Without that, I have to just conclude they’re racist etc and that fascism appeals to them. If they’re not duped, then what the fuck are they doing voting for Trump and MAGA?
No, I definitely agree with you, but they conceive of what is in their interest beyond just economic and race terms. I mean, I don't agree with their logic, but if you LITERALLY thought abortion was murder, I can see how one could prioritize that over other things.
I really can’t follow her argument against the view that working class people are not voting in their own interest. To me that’s a charitable way to put it. Without that, I have to just conclude they’re racist etc and that fascism appeals to them. If they’re not duped, then what the fuck are they doing voting for Trump and MAGA?
No, I definitely agree with you, but they conceive of what is in their interest beyond just economic and race terms. I mean, I don't agree with their logic, but if you LITERALLY thought abortion was murder, I can see how one could prioritize that over other things.