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What worries me the most is not that Biden will remain the candidate, but that the Biden campaign team has vowed to continue their current ineffective strategies.

This is a 5-alarm fire and Biden's team is pretending it's politics as usual.

If hemorrhaging blocks of the base and losing every swing state isn't sufficient to change course, and doubling down on this losing strategy is the answer to the debate debacle...Trump 2.0 will be inevitable.

Biden and his team seem impervious to constructive input.

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Apologies in advance for being long-winded. I have so many conflicting thoughts.

Debating skills have zero to do with how someone governs. Campaigning is one set of skills and people, being a good president is another set of skills and people, and the two rarely overlap. We know Biden is up to the actual job, because he has done/ is doing great things for the country. Like you said, Scott, we donʻt vote for presidents; we vote for a whole administration. And Bidenʻs administration has been stellar for the most part. I believe this administration has been the best and most progressive of my life. As a group, theyʻve gotten more good things done than any administration since LBJ (who, like Biden, was not very progressive as an individual). I wish people would be more clear that weʻre worried about Bidenʻs energy for campaigning and not his presidenting.

I wanted to share an idea that some political scientists and historians are saying online: Keep Biden, get through the election somehow, and if he needs to resign from office in the future, then Harris can take over and have a great administration behind her. They are saying that the election is way too close to pick a new candidate in any fair or democratic way, get candidates vetted, get the person on the ballot in all states, let alone get an actual campaign going. The election will be over before all that happens. Biden resigning anytime after Jan. 20 would be much much smoother, itʻs happened several times in our history, and it would keep our voters together. If we were ever going to drop Biden, the decision-makers needed to start preparing a couple of years ago, and we should have had a big primary.

Trying to get all our voters enthusiastic about a new candidate that we didnʻt even get to vote on is a much harder task than people are admitting. Hereʻs my thesis statment: Pushing Biden out right now would be just as--if not more--risky as keeping him!

I agree with you, Scott, that if we do lose Biden, we have to go with Harris. Sheʻs the only choice that wouldnʻt throw us into total chaos and fratricide. But we all know (based on past experience) that many of the uninformed people who decide our elections prefer voting for a White guy. But picking a White guy with no federal experience to shove Harris out of the way would have real and negative consequences for our voter base (and he probably wouldnʻt do a great job as president anyway, if he doesnʻt have experience on foreign affairs or working with Congress). I could go back and forth like this all day. Itʻs a real pickle weʻre in, for sure, made worse because Bidenʻs energy is an unknown variable, considering how great he looked in NC the next day. How can anyone plan for anything when no one knows what to expect??

I just wanted to add these things to the discussion. I am as nervous as anyone about what we witnessed Thurs night, and neither Biden nor Harris are far enough left for me. That said, I will 1000% vote for whoever is the Dem presidential candidate. I would eagerly vote for a rock over Trump. But people like me arenʻt the ones we need to convince.

We Hoosiers, whose votes wonʻt count for this race, have to do everything we can to help other states who will decide the president, no matter who the Dem candidate is. Our part in democracy is just as important as the candidateʻs part or the campaign teamʻs part. Just like Mueller, Biden isnʻt going to save us by himself. We have to save ourselves. If we only complain and donʻt participate in campaigns, then we have no right to whine afterward that the campaign team screwed up. Just voting is not enough this time around.

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